All purchases through these links help out the channel and when possible also give you guys discounts!Epic Games Store: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/?epic_affiliate=jd-plays\u0026epic_gameId=undefinedHumble Bundle Store: https://www.humblebundle.com/?partner=jdplaysHow to find me?-----------------------------------------------------Feel bad about Adblocker? Some people like to have fluids part of their bus which could include: Having all possible items on a bus results in a huge wide bus with a lot of belt-buffer for expensive items and standing belts of output-items that won't get used in another process. Advertisement you can reduce the number of belts needed on the bus by dedicating production to the intermediates (typically the green circuit requirements for other circuits). Balancers also use the mechanic that splitters take an equal amount of items from both input belts. If you don't have red circuits yet, don't worry -- you're just planning for the future! One of the most notable designs include the use of conveyor belts. The concept of a Main Bus is to put the most used and useful ingredients in a central spot to use for assembling machines. Instead, I have a decentralized system where separate modular areas have inputs/outputs delivered/retrieved by train. Search reviews. Main reason I run a 4/2/2 bus for my start base is that it allows me to produce continuously produce a SP3 and PM3 module in yellow assemblers and still have enough resources for 10/12/24 science in blue assemblers. Many balancers fail to balance properly once an output backs up or if an output is not used. by sha664817 Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:57 am, Post This item will only be visible to you, admins, and anyone marked as a creator. by Hannu Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:28 am, Post A throughput limited universal balancer may only have the capacity for a few unused outputs. I do put steel and batteries on the bus. 4 should be max, as even if you run 4.. you will still run out as the belts just acts as buffer.. the real key is to have more inputs to the main buss, or and give some factorys direct link that matches theyr requirement from the furnaces. Glad you found it useful! Id like to consider starting a train-grid factory that I see people use and I'm just theorizing that I'll come into the issue of picking up ingredients. Using a non-prioritizing split-off will only distribute the shortage, not magically create more production. Phone number (716) 649-0940. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Usually I make factories which consume 500 k - 1M iron plates per hour (4-8 blue belts), but three trains transport iron to green circuit factory, steel factory and main base (in which science packs are produced). It includes all the methods you need to take the designs and blueprints from the beginning on constructing your main bus, all the way up to using it to gain the advantage. This is also a downside as there are more belts used and therefore more room for belt-buffer and everything is less compact. The easiest way to upgrade belts is simply run along the line, holding down the mouse button to place belts on top of existing ones. Support me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/JD_PlaysMy Twitter For details of upcoming live streams and anything else 280 Char or less: https://twitter.com/JD_Play5Chat with me live on Discord: https://discord.gg/G6FcZPpTwitch for all your Live Steaming needs: https://www.twitch.tv/jdplaysFeel like being hit in the face, with a book? The priorities can be set in various ways but this should not distract from the fact that more resource input should be added whenever this becomes a concern. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free), Frequently Suggested / Link Collections. 2 iron, 2 copper, 1 red circuits, half and half blue/batteries, 2 plastic, green circuits, 2 steel. 0 reviews that are not currently recommended. Hamburg, Lviv if its easier on the group to explain, I'd be happy to be suggested a video that covers such dilemmas and any others that I'm not yet imagining. Far better to make these locally as needed. Factorio SPLITTING OFF THE BUS How to Split off the bus 1.0 Tips and Tricks done quick - YouTube Buy Factorio here: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/factorio?partner=jdplaysMore. Whether one uses a bus is often decided before starting a map or when first building an array of furnaces. The following are two designs for a split-off off a 4-wide bus that feature an in-line lane-balancer(by reddit user /u/moomaka). Watching the trains move through the junction is so satisfying and mesmerizing! You need to sign in or create an account to do that. I agree with Hedning, that it depends on whether you want to launch one satellite and then say "game over" (and start over), or continue on, and see how many satellites you can launch, and build a mega-base! However, in most cases a belt is split away from the main bus that can deliver the resource to a sub-factory. by CJ5Boss Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:40 pm, Post READ MORE: Rust: How to fix screen tearing. If a universal balancer is throughput limited, the bottleneck may be in the loops or the balancer itself. Split-off designs aren't strictly necessary but help immensely. Use your imagination to design your factory, combine simple elements into ingenious structures, apply management skills to keep it working and finally protect it from the creatures who don't really like you.Join forces with other players in cooperative Multiplayer, create huge factories, collaborate and delegate tasks between you and your friends. Place Assemblers: 1 crafting Iron Gear Wheels, 6-8 making Red Science. And instead of rebalancing you can use priority splitters. Copper Cables: While they are high in demand for green circuits, they are used in almost nothing else. When one doesn't have enough production to saturate a belt (or splits it into more) then this can be called a "fake"-bus as it can not be saturated. This indicates not enough products being produced to meet demand, this can be remedied with adding more lanes with corresponding more production further up the chain of production. Hamburg - Some players eventually phase out the main bus entirely in favor of robots. The resulting balancer is usually larger than a balancer that was initially designed to be throughput unlimited. In Factorio, having a main bus is an advantage, however it must be well-designed to make sure that it could be used properly and efficiently. The 4 line meta comes from a time of fixed underground lengths and the need for even balancer sizes. Bus terminal is located approximately 2.2 km from the city centre, which is approximately a 10 minute ride. - All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. The following amenities are available at Bus terminal bus stop: ATM, Toilet, Luggage storage, Kiosk and Coffee bar Near the bus stop in Bus terminal you can also find: Train station (387 m) and Parking (203 m) In case that you wish to continue your journey from the bus stop, you can find . Bowling. Upgrade belts when more throughput is needed. - You can replace splitters and undergrounds similarly by just placing upgraded versions on top of the old, (without the need to deconstruct them). For green circuitsi never go more than two for my starter base. Once you've decided, proceed with collecting all the resources necessary to construct your main bus. If you need more inject more material later instead of widening the bus. Yet! Chests between each belt structure move items along as well as providing a collection place for pickup. Buy Factorio here: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/factorio?partner=jdplaysMore tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnIE0W-m629c4nhPTspGRVm35Zr80CZTgWelcome to my Factorio Tutorial series where I'll be trying to teach you guys everything I know about Factorio. Now red belt can span 6 tiles, which is pretty good for parts of the bus. We have located 2 bus terminals and one bus stop in Hamburg. So you should generally have 4 iron, 4 copper, 4 green circuits, and then you can do 2/2 steel/plastic to start out, then as you progress and get other resources made you can either leave them local (for gears/copper wire) or add them to the main bus on belts of 2 - so red circuits, maybe batteries etc. Universal balancers can be throughput limited. by vanatteveldt Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:14 pm, Post Valve Corporation. This Factorio Base Tour showcases a magnificent 5.2k SPM (Science Per Minute) Mutliple Main Bus Megabase made by Hornet! This item will only be visible in searches to you, your friends, and admins. Would you say that I should have more chopper and iron? Place these one tile away from the Red Science output belt. Using iron plates as index 100: Copper: 78 Steel: 7 Plastic: 15 Coal: 13 Iron Gear: 6 Electronic Circuit: 38 Advanced Circuit: 6 Stone Brick: 2 Note that this is for science only. This is sometimes done to get Items crafted into a chest for personal use like pipe which only uses Iron plates. ): http://www.xtermvideos.com-----------------------------------------------------My Merchandise: https://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/Xterminator/My Website (Blueprints, Mod Lists, \u0026 More! Taking two belts off of this won't produce two belts worth of output, the middle one only carries half a belt to each side! It will just depend on you on which design you would do as long as the conveyor belt is included. This can lead to designs of a base consisting of only train-stations with small logistic networks without any belts. What should I put on my new main bus and how many belts of each item? - I usually go for KatherineOfSky's bus, especially in vanilla or slightly modified vanilla play, which is this: My own personal Factorio super-power - running out of power. All production and builds in the factory are belt based and there are 4 identical, but rotated \"mini bases\" that each produce 1.3k SPM and fit into a corner triangle. there were conveyor belts. The idea is that one wants to draw from every belt (and lane even) equally to not have too few items at the current planned production and not have empty and at the same time standing belts of items. Generally my main bus consists of iron plate, copper plate, and coal. For me my last base that could launch three rockets every half hour had 4 belts iron, 4 belts copper, 2 belts green (but was starting to bottleneck, should have built 4 lanes green), 2 belts steel (from its own supply of iron ore and smelting, i.e. Place a regular inserter and a long armed inserter to feed each Science assembler. - These balancers can balance evenly between any inputs and any outputs. So, if only one side of that splitter gets input, as can be seen in the gif, it can only output one belt even though the side of the splitter is fed by a splitters which gets two full belts of input. how many belts of iron/copper/green circuits should I make, I'm currently planning on doing 4iron,4coppper,2green circuits. And instead of rebalancing you can use priority splitters. The balancers/taps get very large above 4 since your next logical jump is 8. Neatness matters! by astroshak Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:08 am, Post When one wants to use the items on their bus one could directly take items off the bus as if it is just a belt, though that would mean an extremely long bus and useless lengths of other belts. All rights reserved. Raw materials such as Iron, Copper, Oil etc are delivered via trains and are then turned into all 7 types of science using a large main bus. If what you're going for is launching one satellite (beating the game) and researching all techs (for the achievement), in my experience you don't really need a "full" bus. This is especially deceiving when the item isn't moving and all belts have filled up as these belts can't carry the amount they lead one to believe they can. Plastic x1 (recommend x2) Batteries x1. Two science packs made efficiently and traveling together on the same belt! So I'm starting of a new factorio game, planning on making my first rocket in this game. Alternatively, one can make split-off setups without priority splitters. (I normally skip red belts and go straight to blue to save myself the annoyance of replacing the bus 2 times). Hamburg. Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. Having smaller groups of only one or two is also not a bad thing. Hamburg, Frankfurt In essence this means that an n-n balancer is not a functional n-(n-1) balancer. How many main lines of base resources( copper. This is done by adding two more splitters at the end of the balancer, as it can be seen here: However most balancers' bottlenecks can't be solved as easily. Here are some things people have put on their bus in the past: Each of these items would get a dedicated line of belts from which one would draw from if there is a need for the item. When your need for materials becomes too great, you may want to consider moving some production OFF of the bus and feeding it in from other locations. That means that a splitter can be used to put an equal amount of items on two belts. These are being used to transport items and put some of it in the centre spot (which is the main purpose of a main bus). There's a lot to consider when building a main bus. I hope to cover everything in the series, but if you can't find something in the playlist above please leave a comment and I'll try to make a video on it.Today we covered how to split off a main bus, using priority splitters in both a waterfall and a reverse waterfall method, as well as more traditional main bus splits which take 25% off each lane.Map Download https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tP8lTMwijmavLCTsXYDTlB6xoNbfbFOlBlueprint String: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ML-UGyxwLOSfpIKC9G6L35IXkPqNOMImFactorio is a game in which you build and maintain factories.You will be mining resources, researching technologies, building infrastructure, automating production and fighting enemies. Each of these is essential to your main bus design: Iron Plates x4 (recommend x8) Copper Plates x4 (recommend x8) Steel Plates x1 (recommend x2) Green Circuits x2 (recommend x4) Red Circuits (Advanced Circuits) x1 (recommend x2) Blue Circuits (Processing Units) x1. - The output from putting them on something like green circuits feels impressive because of the output from so few assemblers, but it's much more effective to multiply blues, then reds, before greens! by Rjskeet Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:05 am, Post Split off iron in two places (for throughput), and a half-belt of green circuits. by Miravlix Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:19 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. - Hamburg, Kolding Due to the design of the whole base, there are 4 main rails that come in from each direction and pass through a big lane junction. Same with the production that is to the side of the bus, leave space between the builds for later expansion or belts that go between, at least three, six to ten is fitting. 4 iron and 4 copper is fine. Other times, this is not an option. It comes out 83 iron/sec (3.11 red belts), 104 cu/sec (3.9 red belts), and 56 green circuit/sec (2 red belts). Some of the most popular companies departing from Hamburg are: Comati PSG, DTG Deutsche Touring GmbH, Sindbad, Union Ivkoni, Winew and Rute Auto. Place 2 rows of belts along the gear, inserter, and belt assemblers, and place the snaking belt that leads to the Green Science assemblers as per screenshot below. I love using helmod to do all calculations in-game, but of course a spreadsheet is fine as well. - - Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal, Hamburg, Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal. Once you can expand them in Factorio, you may put one of the green and red circuit builds each, alongside the blue processors, modules, science, and steel smelting. Balancers are used to evenly distribute items over multiple belts or multiple belt lanes. Hmm I was doing 2 lines for green 1 each for blue and red and i also space my lines 4 spaces apart for all my fluids and a litter needs. 6 years later and you still respond to almost each and every person. - by netmand Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:16 pm, Post 1 full input belt gets split into two 50% full belts which get split into 4 belts that are each 25% full. - First of all, you'll need to think of the best area in where to put it. there is even enough iron left for "buildy things" (belts, etc). - Sulfuric Acid: Used for both batteries and Processing Units (Blue Circuits). by astroshak Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:44 am, Post - The reason I asked about what a main bus should have is because I am rebuilding my base from scratch. The easiest way to do a two-material split off is to start with the position of the belt near the assembler, and work backwards. Hamburg, Skopje Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. Place another belt along the output side of the assemblers. To be throughput unlimited, a balancer must fulfil the following conditions: Balancers often do not fulfill the second condition because of internal bottlenecks. A corner is not unheard of but very unusual and is often only necessary when a lake appears that is not planned for. Every item that is used in more than one recipe, got it's own production area with train inputs and train outputs, in my 2700 SPM game. by MobRules Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:12 am, Post I tried using next-level products (i.e. This means I still have throughput on my iron/copper busses for other things. Hamburg, Siegen Sharing makes us all stronger and more inspired to come up with new ideas! Now red belt can span 6 tiles, which is pretty good for parts of the bus. Oldenburg, Hamburg Do you just want to finish the game, or do you plan on continuing after the rocket? Players sometimes choose to only build on one side of the bus until they can estimate that they won't need more belts on the bus. The base uses a combination of Solar and Nuclear power to supply the whopping 30GW of needed power when the factory is going full tilt. Rust game file size: How big is the download. Any arbitrary amount of input belts should be able to go to any arbitrary amount of output belts. The following designs have the additional property that if the incoming belts are fully saturated then the split-off belt will be full (recall that a single splitter with a single full input belt will by default split off a half-filled belt). Definitely 4 green circuits. Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. Hamburg, Copenhagen Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Grouping differing items together can cause problems when splitting them off, hence only groupings of two differing items is recommended. Steel is usually the one I'm short on. The concept of a Main Bus is to put the most used and useful ingredients in a central spot to use for assembling machines. How many bus stops and stations are there in Hamburg? To have all the information in the palm of your hand download our mobile app for free! Ideally, a balancer should be input and output balanced. That way at every step along the bus a few items are split off and used up and when the production comes to a stop the items go on to be used by the next production. A bus often starts at the smelting of iron, copper and steel, and then over time and distance gains more and more different items. 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, 0eNqdlt1ugjAUx1/F9GpLitJDReUxdrssC2jjmkFLSjEjhndfwbkQLabHq4bC/3c+e8qZFGUraiOVJdmZyL1WDcnez6SRR5WXw57takEycpLGtm6HEpVXw8bli4iTnhKpDuKHZKynCOXbRAlepbSimsjqUlorzESWBMisyVVTa2OjQpR2Iub9ByVCWWmluAQ9PnSfqq0KZyZjcwxKat04mVaDVYeKEkq6YekHh24w8I9pnWFzNNqtcyB2BdFrNLq1dTv4fQdOMGBAgDkCHCO4a3RCmS+hKRoDPswmHAMPvNk+UV53UMhBGrG/vIOA3O2eKDbMmZFqxgqLn4gG8NGw8LPlN8J9UMBCb+vggyb3A2juELDlOgDIse0b+9qOrQP8imC5HhHezmVpCIL9IfxebEIQ8UMvtuhpE/cBnbzDptk7JCDGpNk//xn+TEFAhAD4kRDETTA19Ycc3uPxNffuMh4v7mzyS0JJmTuZ2+PR6MvCyOOXXbwU3WLVriqtq/w7f3XfnYRpRmjKOaTpBhjs+v4XLT/v+g==. As others have said the main bus simply acts as a buffer - remember that it's not your resource pool. steel, copper cable, iron gear wheel) but it gets way too complicated to belt weave and it winds up making more sense to having dedicated assemblers for each of their end products. Aarhus, Berlin Yea, that's fine, to make gears where they are needed. - Assembly lines are best placed so that they run perpendicular to the Main Bus. by Rjskeet Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:44 pm, Post Click here to open location in google maps. Creating a train grid factory. I still need to put skynet back in =P. The width of the bus can become a problem if it is very wide. - by Aeternus Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:54 pm, Post 0eNqlld1qhDAQhV+lzHUsxv/6DPsGpRTdDUvAjRLjUhHfvaPWVTBbMu1VcPR8OTOTMQOUVScaLZWBfAB5rlUL+fsArbyqoppipm8E5HCX2nQYYaCK2xRYvvAiGBlIdRFfkPOREZSnnTKwKqURt01mdKHaptbGK0VlduLwP+Jo/GAglJFGiiX1+aH/VN2tFBqTejA6VOirrnFdKAyaukVhraZ9EeYFDHpc0NFqo+5M000bHsABAewTuCHFMCeAo2fVPGAfVAsl/kM9+WZPqifuEmd3KxUPHVykFuflXWKBpu5Q7gzNtkloKmkMxo44/zVec7cg3qitCGwU7lMxVjOcuyTEfxLyrYiA2j27k9DBif+rkYg8lS6Hk8f0oXTiJsQO2suWUhpoP0oZofJIwJ/u/IPOdxcQg6pA7xiLvBnyMl0ad6HbZZSyNOBZmPhhNI7frCw6ag==, 0eNqdld9qgzAUxl9lnOs4TBq19Rl6tdsxhrahBGyUGMuK+O476jqFxpGzq+DR75fv/DHpoaw61VhtHOQ96FNtWsjfe2j1xRTVGHP3RkEON21dhxEGpriOgfmLSMLAQJuz+oKcD8yj1E5dF5mzhWmb2rqoVJVbiYVXvLXtcaXckZRvK6UcPhgo47TTas57erh/mu5aKosZ/ao7VNiLrXGdnTNo6haFtRk3RVgkGNxxQTsPD3Xnmm5M8gksCOCYwN1RDHMCWBLAFG7yjwrzBazNBjfdmrhNKg4gnLVVp/ld6oFmwdDYyxQe5j7cKA82elimvqm0cxh7xsWvyaOeHgSP6R0PaQznwQnz4CJyEZIw/0k49ua7o06Mv2wywEn8p5GEfDYE1T2lHw1B3IzYT3/Z9pQGCi/iQKg8EvDon66mfHUHMqgK9I4xGU2Ql2qE3JRt539NSpGmmeDiMAzfI+ZmDA==, 0eNqlldFugzAMRX9l8nOYcEih5TP2Ok0TbaMqEgQUQjVU8e8LdAy0hirWniIM9+TajsMNjmUnG6O0hfwG6lTrFvL3G7TqootyjNm+kZDDVRnbuQgDXVRj4P5FJGBgoPRZfkGOAyMo31ZK7lUqK6tFZk2h26Y2NjrK0q7EyX/EYvhgILVVVsl76tND/6m76iiNS2qLwaCpWyer9birQ0WcQe+WZBgN/cHwX0znNjYXU7t1AxTPHDYnU3e26UbbD9yEwI2QABYEMIW7I9eT++qZkjHow2TBmHg2w+CsjDzdX3EPc7+c9KZU1rrYo6n4dffE1iHYFgbbwpjeUVw6qvRGQxFD8sWffGNfusip3fRWDZMAJ/FTI4I8pkEl2tGnNIibEs+Jv2wZpYHeacQ9ofKO4O7c6X7OV/8fBmXhvLuYiCbIy8i4StNOiFQInqYZR34Yhm/sYzpB. To balance belts it has to be made sure that the output belts contain an equal number of items from each input belt. A good example of this are copper cables as they consume more space on a belt than in the form of copper plates. Press J to jump to the feed. Heya Gmanicus! Mister's Bar and Lanes. Make sure to re-balance belts after you split from them. - Balancers that are input balanced take evenly from all input belts/belt lanes. #Factorio #FactorioBaseTour #FactorioBeltMegaBaseOutro Music: Rubik [NCS Release]Provided by NoCopyrightSoundsYou can find the track here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2AydJcUKR8Please check out the Artist by following these links!Electro-Light Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ElectroLight Twitter https://twitter.com/ElectroLightEDM SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/maskedacoustic Distrion SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/distrion Facebook https://www.facebook.com/distrionmusic Twitter https://twitter.com/Distrionoficial I think this would be adequate: Oh, I already have blue belts. People Also Viewed. I've had many playthroughs of the vanilla and mildly modded factorio but until now have consisted of main bus's of ingredients and trains that only bring ores from long distances to feed the fires. This item has been removed from the community because it violates Steam Community & Content Guidelines. EDIT: Here is an example of what I call a stage 2 "starter" base. Id like to consider starting a train-grid factory that I see people use and I'm just theorizing that I'll come into . - - by Serenity Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:18 pm, Post Groningen, Hamburg Re: How many main bus lines do you generally use? - 3 is not wise since it is hard to tap properly and rebalance. 7. For more main bus blueprint design options, click here. Keep the main bus, build your new base close to it. Stealth Optional is supported by its audience. by RLS0812 Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:22 am, Post Really quite unique in my opinion.The factory utilizes 2-8 single length single headed trains for the raw material transportation. Kharkiv, Hamburg This is fixed by adding more furnace/mine set ups to keep production high. Place Concrete or Stone Brick under a couple lanes of your bus & in one of the spaces between lanes (at a minimum) since it gives you a speed boost when running. There are alternative designs, for example, using splitter priorities to fully prefer the setups near the start of the main bus and only allow materials to go through to a later setup if that earlier setup's needs are satisfied. Even if you only have 2 rows of green circuits, you might be just fine provided you can make enough of them, but most people do 4 for large bases.
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